{"id":25640,"date":"2010-06-14T15:47:10","date_gmt":"2010-06-14T19:47:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/2010\/06\/no-islamic-worship-in-former-m\/"},"modified":"2010-06-14T15:47:10","modified_gmt":"2010-06-14T19:47:10","slug":"no-islamic-worship-in-former-m","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/2010\/06\/no-islamic-worship-in-former-m\/","title":{"rendered":"No Islamic worship in former mosque, bishop says"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--StartFragment--><span style=\"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;\nmso-ansi-language:EN-US\"><i><a href=\"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/C%C3%B3rdoba%20cathedral.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"C&oacute;rdoba cathedral.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/assets_c\/2010\/06\/C&oacute;rdoba cathedral-thumb-285x380-6724.jpg\" width=\"285\" height=\"380\" class=\"mt-image-right\" style=\"float: right; margin: 0 0 20px 20px;\" \/><\/a>Euronews<\/i> reported today that the bishop of&nbsp;C&oacute;rdoba,&nbsp;Bishop Demetrio Fern&aacute;ndez Gonz&aacute;lez made a decision not allow Muslim worship in a former mosque in what is today a Roman Catholic Cathedral. I believe that Bishop Demetrio made a correct and prudent decision here.<\/span><\/p>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;\nmso-ansi-language:EN-US\">But his reasoning seems to lack some precision: it is not the length of time (or how the building came to be Catholic), it&#8217;s legal title is held by the Church much like Hagia Sophia&#8217;s title is not held by the Church but by a museum. Christians accept this latter fact and are not arguing for its return. The Cathedral is a Catholic Church and no longer a mosque even though the two religions worship the transcendent God.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">In <i>Nostra Aetate<\/i> and in other statements of the Holy See teach that Muslims worship the God of Abraham. They believe in only one and their intention is to worship that one, transcendent God and is the same God that Jews and Christians worship.<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Without getting into theological specifics here, it has be noted that with the Muslim religion there is doubt among theologians and experts about nature of the divine inspiration of the Koran and the place of Muhammad as a true prophet; but the Muslims can&#8217;t be accused of not worshipping one God and the elements that are true in Islam come from Judaism and Christianity which were present in Muhammad&#8217;s time. Some would make the claim that the tenets of Islam are similar to a Christian heresy much like Arianism. Orthodox Christians accept that Arians believed in the God who revealed Himself in the Bible however Arianism is rejected because of its denial of the Incarnation of the Second Person of the Trinity.<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">A friend raised a question about Jews and Christians viz. as what might be said of Muslims. The difference with Islam that can&#8217;t be applied to Judaism is that we believe Judaism to be true but incomplete without Jesus; the Torah and the books of the Old Testament is the inspired word of God.<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">So for these reasons Christians and Muslims cannot worship together or share places of worship because Islam does not have an orthodox faith.<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Secular and pluralistic society won&#8217;t agree on what makes a religion true: talk about truth and heresy makes no sense to people who question the possibility of there being truth, claims of objective truth and revelation. Therefore, I think the matter needs to be addressed in terms of reason.<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;\nmso-ansi-language:EN-US\">Catholic worship of God in a consecrated space has a special and essential distinction because the Church is a place of sacrifice and salvation with its focus on the person of Jesus Christ as the way, the truth and the life; no confusion should happen. The same line of thinking would apply to other religions and for Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses and Mormons. Additionally, it&#8217;s not merely &#8220;opening the door&#8221; for the possible expulsion of Catholics again from their mother church but it is improper to allow a religion who does not accept even the basics of Christian faith to worship in a &#8220;Catholic space&#8221; &#8211;and so frequently at odds with Christianity as seen in the murder of Catholic clerics&#8211; and against reason.<\/span><\/p>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px; \"><br \/><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Historically, C&oacute;rdoba is a Roman city but was forcibly converted to Islam in 711 and recaptured by the Spanish King Ferdinand III in 1236. For much of the 525 years that&nbsp;C&oacute;rdoba was Muslim it was also caliphate, the seat of authority. What is intellectually interesting is that The Great Mosque of&nbsp;C&oacute;rdoba was the protector of the world&#8217;s largest library at that time estimated to have between 400,000 and 1 million volumes (I can&#8217;t account for a discrepancy but the numbers are impressive).<br \/><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Having visited&nbsp;C&oacute;rdoba a few years ago I can say that the Islamic influence of former times is still very recognizable and much of the artwork beautiful, even though I can&#8217;t read Arabic.<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/font><a href=\"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/C%C3%B3rdoba%20ceiling.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"C&oacute;rdoba ceiling.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/assets_c\/2010\/06\/C&oacute;rdoba ceiling-thumb-285x213-6726.jpg\" width=\"285\" height=\"213\" class=\"mt-image-left\" style=\"float: left; margin: 0 20px 20px 0;\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px; \"><i>The article:<\/i><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;\nmso-ansi-language:EN-US\">&#8220;Bishop Demetrio Fern&aacute;ndez Gonz&aacute;lez of the southern<br \/>\nSpanish city of C&oacute;rdoba, once the seat of Muslim power in Spain, said that he<br \/>\nwill not permit Islamic worship at the city&#8217;s cathedral. The cathedral was<br \/>\nformerly a mosque, which in turn had been built on the site of a Catholic<br \/>\nchurch.<\/span><\/p>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;\nmso-ansi-language:EN-US\">&#8220;Sharing the cathedral with Muslims, Bishop Fern&aacute;ndez Gonz&aacute;lez said in<br \/>\nan interview, &#8220;is a euphemism which means: get Catholics out of here &#8230; The<br \/>\nanswer to the question about sharing the Cathedral is that no, we&#8217;re not,<br \/>\nbecause this place has been a Catholic church 16 centuries, while Muslims have<br \/>\nbeen four and half centuries.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<div><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;\nmso-ansi-language:EN-US\">&#8220;If I let in the Muslims pray in the<br \/>\ncathedral of Cordoba, it is equivalent to Catholics saying goodbye and good<br \/>\nnight; it would be irresponsible,&#8221; he added. &#8220;There are things that are<br \/>\nshared and others that are not, and the cathedral of Cordoba is not shared with<br \/>\nMuslims (&#8230;)&#8221;<\/span><!--EndFragment--><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Euronews reported today that the bishop of&nbsp;C&oacute;rdoba,&nbsp;Bishop Demetrio Fern&aacute;ndez Gonz&aacute;lez made a decision not allow Muslim worship in a former mosque in what is today a Roman Catholic Cathedral. I believe that Bishop Demetrio made a correct and prudent decision here. But his reasoning seems to lack some precision: it is not the length of &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/2010\/06\/no-islamic-worship-in-former-m\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">No Islamic worship in former mosque, bishop says<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[52],"tags":[1843,1930],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25640"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=25640"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25640\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=25640"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=25640"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=25640"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}