{"id":25017,"date":"2009-10-21T13:55:46","date_gmt":"2009-10-21T17:55:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/2009\/10\/thoughts-on-the-holy-sees-offe\/"},"modified":"2009-10-21T13:55:46","modified_gmt":"2009-10-21T17:55:46","slug":"thoughts-on-the-holy-sees-offe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/2009\/10\/thoughts-on-the-holy-sees-offe\/","title":{"rendered":"Thoughts on the Holy See&#8217;s offer to the Anglicans to come to Rome"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">It is a dramatic slap-down of<br \/>\nliberal Anglicanism and a total repudiation of the ordination of women,<br \/>\nhomosexual marriage and the general neglect of doctrine in Anglicanism. Indeed,<br \/>\nit is <i>a final rejection of Anglicanism<\/i>. It basically interprets Anglicanism as<br \/>\na spiritual patrimony based on ethnic tradition rather than substantial<br \/>\ndoctrine and makes clear that it is not a historic &#8220;church&#8221; but<br \/>\nrather an &#8220;ecclesial community&#8221; that strayed and now is invited to return<br \/>\nto communion with the Pope as Successor of Peter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The Vatican was careful to<br \/>\nschedule simultaneously with the Vatican announcement, a press conference of<br \/>\nthe Catholic Archbishop of Westminster and the deeply humiliated Anglican<br \/>\nArchbishop of Canterbury to enable the Anglicans to save some face by saying<br \/>\nthat this recognizes the spiritual patrimony of Anglicanism and that ecumenical<br \/>\ndialogue goes ahead. That is like George Washington at Yorktown saying that he<br \/>\nrecognizes the cultural contributions of Britain and hopes diplomatic relations<br \/>\nflourish. <span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">The Apostolic Constitution is not a retraction of ecumenical desires,<br \/>\nbut rather is the fulfillment of ecumenical aspirations, albeit not the way<br \/>\nmost Anglican leaders had envisioned it<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The press, uninformed and always<br \/>\ntabloid in matters of religion, will zoom in on the permission for married<br \/>\npriests. <span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">T<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">hey will miss the most important point: that this reiterates the<br \/>\nCatholic Church&#8217;s insistence that Anglican Holy Orders are invalid, and<br \/>\nperforce so is their Eucharist<\/span>. These married Anglican priests have to be fully<br \/>\nand validly ordained&nbsp;by a Catholic bishop. Following Orthodox custom, they<br \/>\nare allowed to marry only before ordination and not after. And no married man<br \/>\nmay become a bishop. (Thus, any Anglican bishop joining one of these<br \/>\n&#8220;ordinariates&#8221; would no longer be recognized as a bishop. Under<br \/>\nspecial provision, Anglican bishops would have some right to pastoral authority,<br \/>\nbut would not be bishops.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">It remains to be seen how many Anglicans<br \/>\n(Episcopalians in the USA) will be received into the Catholic Church under<br \/>\nthese provisions, but it is a final nail in the coffin of the rapidly<br \/>\ndisintegrating Anglicanism at least in the West and will radically challenge<br \/>\nAnglicans in other parts of the world. Perhaps most importantly, it sets a<br \/>\nprecedent for reunion with Orthodox churches whose Holy Orders the Catholic<br \/>\nChurch already recognizes as valid. I should not be surprised if the Anglican<br \/>\nArchbishop of Canterbury eventually is received into the Catholic Church, at<br \/>\nleast when he retires and gets a patent of nobility and a pension.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/Fr%20George%20Rutler.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Fr George Rutler.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/assets_c\/2009\/10\/Fr George Rutler-thumb-150x190-4848.jpg\" width=\"150\" height=\"190\" class=\"mt-image-left\" style=\"float: left; margin: 0 20px 20px 0;\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><i><br \/><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><i>Fr. George<br \/>\nRutler is pastor of The Church of Our Saviour in New York City and is a convert<br \/>\nto Catholicism from the Anglican Communion.<\/i><o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It is a dramatic slap-down of liberal Anglicanism and a total repudiation of the ordination of women, homosexual marriage and the general neglect of doctrine in Anglicanism. Indeed, it is a final rejection of Anglicanism. It basically interprets Anglicanism as a spiritual patrimony based on ethnic tradition rather than substantial doctrine and makes clear that &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/2009\/10\/thoughts-on-the-holy-sees-offe\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Thoughts on the Holy See&#8217;s offer to the Anglicans to come to Rome<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[57],"tags":[1908],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25017"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=25017"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25017\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=25017"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=25017"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/communio.stblogs.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=25017"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}